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Report: DeepSeek, Moonshot used OpenAI GPT-6 Astra to train models

Chinese AI developers DeepSeek and Moonshot AI relied heavily on distillation of OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra to train recent models, The Information reported, according to a Techmeme roundup and a Reuters headline summarizing that account1,2.

Techmeme said The Information, citing sources, named Moonshot's Kimi K3.1 Pro and DeepSeek's V4.1-Flash 1017 as models trained with that approach after Anthropic moved against distillation1.

Reuters published a separate item whose headline attributed the same claim to The Information; the full Reuters article could not be retrieved here2.

Neither Techmeme's visible summary nor the Reuters headline included on-record comment from OpenAI, DeepSeek or Moonshot AI1,2.

What the original Information reporting contained beyond those headlines, and whether the companies dispute it, was not independently verified from the assigned pages1,2.

Sources

  1. TechmemeSources: DeepSeek and Moonshot AI heavily relied on GPT-6 Astra distillation to train models like Kimi K3.1 Pro and V4.1-Flash 1017, after Anthropic's crackdown (The Information)
  2. ReutersDeepSeek, Moonshot used OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra to train latest models, The Information reports

How it’s being reported

2 sources

First reported by Reuters

Sources: DeepSeek and Moonshot AI heavily relied on GPT-6 Astra distillation to train models like Kimi K3.1 Pro and V4.1-Flash 1017, after Anthropic's crackdown (The Information)

The Information's unnamed sources and a shift after Anthropic restricted distillation.

Techmeme led with The Information's sourcing that DeepSeek and Moonshot distilled GPT-6 Astra for recent models after Anthropic's crackdown.

Leaves out Company responses and OpenAI's prior public statements.

Where they agree

  • Both items present The Information as the originating report that DeepSeek and Moonshot used GPT-6 Astra distillation on recent models.

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TechmemeTechmeme

Sources: DeepSeek and Moonshot AI heavily relied on GPT-6 Astra distillation to train models like Kimi K3.1 Pro and V4.1-Flash 1017, after Anthropic's crackdown (The Information)

The Information's unnamed sources and a shift after Anthropic restricted distillation.

Techmeme led with The Information's sourcing that DeepSeek and Moonshot distilled GPT-6 Astra for recent models after Anthropic's crackdown.

Leaves out Company responses and OpenAI's prior public statements.

The Information's unnamed sources and a shift after Anthropic restricted distillation.

What it reports

  • The Information, via Techmeme, said sources claimed DeepSeek and Moonshot AI relied heavily on GPT-6 Astra distillation.
  • Models named include Moonshot's Kimi K3.1 Pro and DeepSeek's V4.1-Flash 1017.
  • The roundup framed the work as following Anthropic's crackdown on distillation.

Leaves out Company responses and OpenAI's prior public statements.