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9th Circuit hears DOJ bid to set aside 20,000 California ballots

A 9th Circuit panel on Sunday questioned the Justice Department's emergency request to block counting of about 20,000 California mail ballots, with no ruling yet, the Los Angeles Times and JURIST reported.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit heard emergency arguments Sunday on the Justice Department's request that California stop counting mail ballots from about 20,000 registered voters the department says are likely noncitizens, and the panel did not issue a ruling1,3.

The department sued California, Secretary of State Shirley Weber and Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk Dean Logan on Oct. 15 in the Central District of California, seeking an order to set those ballots aside until citizenship is verified2.

U.S. District Judge David O. Carter received the case Oct. 21 and set a temporary-restraining-order hearing for Oct. 272. The department appealed to the 9th Circuit, arguing that the lack of an immediate district-court order was effectively a denial as mail ballots continue to be processed1,2.

California told the appeals court there is nothing to review because the district court has not ruled1,2. Circuit Judge Mark Bennett, appointed by President Donald Trump, asked how the panel had jurisdiction while the lower court had scheduled a prompt hearing1,3.

Justice Department attorney Matthew Donnelly said federal criminal law bars noncitizen voting in federal elections and that California's refusal to sequester the flagged ballots frustrates that statute1,3. Bennett said the Elections Clause leaves the manner of congressional elections to the states unless Congress changes those rules1,3.

Circuit Judge Gabriel Sanchez, appointed by President Joe Biden, questioned the provenance and reliability of the federal list, including an earlier, much larger estimate of possible noncitizens on the rolls1,3. Los Angeles County's lawyer, Seth Waxman, said a sample review found canceled or inactive registrations and voters who appeared to have been born in the United States1,3.

Circuit Judge Patrick Bumatay, also a Trump appointee, pressed the state's side on whether, without an injunction, anyone would later know if ineligible ballots had been counted1,3. Samuel Siegel, representing Weber, said the appeal was an emergency of the department's own making and that voters already attest to citizenship3.

The panel said it would try to rule quickly1,3. Carter's Tuesday hearing remains on the calendar, and a later denial could return the dispute to the 9th Circuit2,3.

Sources

  1. Los Angeles Times9th Circuit panel questions basis for feds' request to block 20,000 California ballots
  2. JURISTDOJ Appeals to Ninth Circuit in California Mail Ballot Case
  3. States NewsroomTrump DOJ’s suit over California vote counting meets a doubtful appeals court panel

How it’s being reported

3 sources

First reported by JURISTJURIST

JURISTJURISTFirst

DOJ Appeals to Ninth Circuit in California Mail Ballot Case

Court filings, legal theories, and the Oct. 27 district-court hearing still on the calendar.

15, appealed after no TRO ruling, and California says the appeal is premature. — JURIST

Recounts the district-court docket: DOJ sued Oct. 15, appealed after no TRO ruling, and California says the appeal is premature.

Leaves out The Sunday 9th Circuit oral argument.

Where they agree

  • The Justice Department seeks to set aside about 20,000 California mail ballots from voters it flags as likely noncitizens.
  • A 9th Circuit panel heard emergency arguments Sunday and had not ruled as of the reports.
  • The district court has not issued a TRO and has a hearing set for Oct. 27.

Where they differ

Whether the 9th Circuit has jurisdiction before a district-court order

Side by side

Each outlet's article broken down by our newsroom, in our own words. To read what they wrote, use the button under each one.

9th Circuit panel questions basis for feds' request to block 20,000 California ballots

Judges' questions on the Elections Clause, appellate jurisdiction before a district-court order, and the reliability of the federal list.

Reports Sunday's 9th Circuit argument over the Justice Department's bid to halt counting of 20,000 flagged California ballots, with no ruling issued.

Leaves out Detailed docket history of the district-court TRO schedule.

Judges' questions on the Elections Clause, appellate jurisdiction before a district-court order, and the reliability of the federal list.

What it reports

  • A three-judge 9th Circuit panel held a rare Sunday hearing and did not rule.
  • Judge Mark Bennett questioned how the court had jurisdiction before a lower-court ruling.
  • The Justice Department seeks to stop counting ballots from about 20,000 flagged voters until citizenship is proven.
  • California and Los Angeles County say the list is flawed and compliance would disrupt the election.
  • Judge Patrick Bumatay pressed the state's side on the risk of never identifying ineligible votes without an injunction.

Leaves out Detailed docket history of the district-court TRO schedule.

JURISTJURIST

DOJ Appeals to Ninth Circuit in California Mail Ballot Case

Court filings, legal theories, and the Oct. 27 district-court hearing still on the calendar.

15, appealed after no TRO ruling, and California says the appeal is premature. — JURIST

Recounts the district-court docket: DOJ sued Oct. 15, appealed after no TRO ruling, and California says the appeal is premature.

Leaves out The Sunday 9th Circuit oral argument.

Court filings, legal theories, and the Oct. 27 district-court hearing still on the calendar.

What it reports

  • DOJ filed United States v. California on Oct. 15 in the Central District of California.
  • DOJ appealed after Judge David O. Carter set a TRO hearing for Oct. 27 rather than ruling immediately.
  • California argues there is nothing to appeal because the district court has not ruled.
  • DOJ says California's handling of flagged voters is preempted by the federal ban on noncitizen voting.
  • The 9th Circuit docketed the appeal as No. 26-7070.

Leaves out The Sunday 9th Circuit oral argument.

Trump DOJ’s suit over California vote counting meets a doubtful appeals court panel

Skeptical questioning from two judges and DOJ's explanation of why it sought emergency relief after seeing ballot volume.

States Newsroom account of Sunday's virtual 9th Circuit argument, carried by multiple state affiliates as one wire.

Leaves out Some Los Angeles Times reporting on later county letters and related Alaska litigation detail.

Skeptical questioning from two judges and DOJ's explanation of why it sought emergency relief after seeing ballot volume.

What it reports

  • Sunday arguments were held virtually and lasted nearly two hours.
  • DOJ lawyer Matthew Donnelly said the department had not appreciated the scale of mail ballots already being processed.
  • Los Angeles County's counsel called that explanation absurd given public ballot numbers.
  • Judge Gabriel Sanchez questioned the reliability of a list that had earlier been far larger.
  • A district-court hearing remains set for Tuesday, with a prompt ruling promised.

Leaves out Some Los Angeles Times reporting on later county letters and related Alaska litigation detail.