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Boeing Q3 net loss $116 million as defense rises; commercial still in the red

Boeing posted a $116 million third-quarter net loss, narrower than a year earlier, as defense sales rose. Adjusted per-share loss missed LSEG estimates; commercial airplanes still lost money.

What's new
  1. CNA is now reporting this
  2. New headline Was: “Boeing is set to report earnings before the bell. Here's what Wall Street expects”
  3. Our desk filed its story

Boeing reported a third-quarter net loss of $116 million, or 26 cents a share, compared with a $5.339 billion loss, or $7.14 a share, a year earlier, according to the company's earnings release1.

Revenue rose 4% to $24.188 billion1. Core loss per share, a non-GAAP measure Boeing uses, was 34 cents1. CNA, citing LSEG, said that compared with a 21-cent expected loss2. CNBC had published the same 21-cent LSEG figure and a $23.84 billion revenue estimate before results3.

Free cash flow was $464 million, up from $238 million a year earlier; operating cash flow was $1.496 billion1. CNA said net debt ended the quarter at $25.2 billion, down from $25.9 billion in the prior quarter and $30.4 billion a year earlier2. Boeing listed $20.7 billion in cash and marketable securities and $45.9 billion of consolidated debt1.

Commercial airplanes remained the drag. The unit posted $10.720 billion in revenue, down 3%, a $697 million operating loss and a 6.5% negative operating margin, versus a 48.3% negative margin a year earlier when results included a 777X charge1,2. Boeing said the mix of deliveries was less favorable and that projected costs from future production-rate changes and supply-chain estimates were higher1. It delivered 161 commercial airplanes, versus 160 a year earlier1.

On 737 output, Boeing said the program is progressing toward stabilized production of 47 jets a month1. CNBC, writing before the release, said the company has been producing about 47 737 Max planes a month and is aiming for more3. CNA said Boeing has struggled to raise 737 output from 42 jets a month to 47, a level it had hoped to reach during the summer, citing Ortberg comments from a September conference2.

Defense, Space & Security revenue rose 15% to $7.935 billion, with $492 million in operating earnings and a 6.2% margin, up from 1.7% a year earlier1. Boeing said the margin included a $252 million gain on the sale of HRL Laboratories and improved operations1,2. Global Services earned $1.019 billion on $5.574 billion of revenue, an 18.3% operating margin1,2.

Boeing said the U.S. Navy selected it to design, build and deliver the F/A-XX fighter, an order not yet in backlog pending review, and that the 737-7 received FAA amended type certification in the quarter, with the 737-10 following in October1,2. Backlog rose to $745 billion1.

CNA quoted CEO Kelly Ortberg telling staff that expectations are rising and that more work remains on backlog, culture and daily performance2. In the release, Ortberg said certifications and the Navy award were important steps and that the company is not done1. CNBC said executives were due on a 10:30 a.m. ET call3. CNA said shares were marginally higher in premarket trading2.

Sources

  1. BoeingBoeing Reports Third Quarter Results
  2. CNABoeing jetliner production challenges weigh on third-quarter results
  3. CNBCBoeing is set to report earnings before the bell. Here's what Wall Street expects

How it’s being reported

2 sources

First reported by BoeingBoeing

Where they agree

  • Core/adjusted loss of 34 cents a share.
  • Commercial airplanes revenue near $10.7 billion with a 6.5% negative operating margin and a $697 million operating loss.
  • Defense results improved, including a subsidiary-sale gain, and Boeing won a U.S. Navy fighter award.
  • 737-7 certification in the quarter and 737-10 certification in October.

Where they differ

737 Max monthly production rate

Side by side

Each outlet's article broken down by our newsroom, in our own words. To read what they wrote, use the button under each one.

CNACNA

Boeing jetliner production challenges weigh on third-quarter results

Miss versus LSEG, commercial delays, 737 output from 42 toward 47, net debt.

CNA, citing Reuters, says Boeing's adjusted loss missed estimates as commercial production costs offset stronger defense and services.

Leaves out Company-wide GAAP net loss and total revenue printed in Boeing's release.

Miss versus LSEG, commercial delays, 737 output from 42 toward 47, net debt.

What it reports

  • Adjusted loss was 34 cents a share versus a 21-cent LSEG expectation.
  • Commercial revenue about $10.7 billion, $697 million operating loss, 6.5% negative margin versus 48.3% a year earlier.
  • Defense nearly $500 million earnings and 6.2% margin; Global Services $1 billion and 18.3% margin.
  • Net debt $25.2 billion, down from $25.9 billion prior quarter and $30.4 billion a year earlier.
  • CNA says Boeing has struggled to lift 737 output from 42 jets a month to 47, which it had hoped to hit in summer.

Leaves out Company-wide GAAP net loss and total revenue printed in Boeing's release.

CNBCCNBC

Boeing is set to report earnings before the bell. Here's what Wall Street expects

Consensus estimates and 737 Max production pace before results posted.

CNBC's pre-results note cited a 21-cent LSEG loss estimate, $23.84 billion expected revenue, and about 47 737 Max jets a month.

Leaves out Actual GAAP and segment results in Boeing's release.

Consensus estimates and 737 Max production pace before results posted.

What it reports

  • Analysts expected a 21-cent per-share loss and $23.84 billion revenue, LSEG data cited by CNBC.
  • Year-earlier net loss was $5.34 billion.
  • CNBC said Boeing has been producing about 47 737 Max planes a month and is aiming for more.
  • CEO Kelly Ortberg said last month production was taking a little longer than expected to stabilize.
  • Executives were scheduled to host a call at 10:30 a.m. ET.

Leaves out Actual GAAP and segment results in Boeing's release.